New Canterbury Tales

Immersive Storytelling as a Design Method for joint future creation

Interview with Godelieve Spaas

Godelieve Spaas is a lecturer in Sustainable Strategy and Innovation at the Expertise Center for Sustainable Business. She specialized in organizational and business innovations that are good for people and for the planet.

This knowledge was crucial for writing Leslie's story.

Read about more of her work on her LinkedIn page.

Note: We asked Chat GTP to write summaries of this interview. Please note that due to that, this summary gives you a global idea of the content, but you should never 100% trust what an AI machine says.

"I, the AI, summarize Godelieve Spaas’ main points in the interview as:

-The need to imagine new ways of valuing things and to have discussions about how companies can "die elegantly."

-The importance of sustainable and innovative practices in business, including indigenous and traditional approaches.

-The belief that the current mindset of always wanting more is not sustainable and that there needs to be a shift towards valuing autonomy and meaningful living.

-The importance of a universal basic income as a step towards this change, as it would give people the freedom to choose work that aligns with their values and interests.

-The need to hold companies accountable to provide a basic income for their employees, as it is a universal right for all people.

-The importance of preserving cultural and social diversity to maintain a healthy society.

-The questioning of the concept of land ownership and the suggestion of moving towards a native American model where land is considered common and managed collectively.

-The suggestion of a dialogue with the land and all living beings who inhabit it, using technology and other means to give voice to plants and animals and communicate with them.

-The need to let go of the need for control and embrace the natural flow of life, including emotions such as fear, anger, and joy.The belief that urban areas will become denser but more livable and green, with a lower carbon footprint than they have now."